On Challenging Racism, and Creating a New Narrative about Border and Immigrant Communities: A Podcast Interview with Linguist Otto Santa Ana

An expert in critical discourse analysis, Santa Ana is a professor emeritus at the University of California in Los Angeles, where he’s spent decades analyzing political speech and media representations of Latinos and immigrants.

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On Challenging Racism, and Creating a New Narrative about Border and Immigrant Communities: A Podcast Interview with Linguist Otto Santa Ana
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Otto Santa Ana, a linguist, once analyzed more than 6,000 of Donald Trump’s tweets, and his political speeches, for a Supreme Court case to defend the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals immigration program. He’s also parsed the speeches of former Arizona Senator Russell Pearce, who sponsored SB 1070, as evidence for a constitutional and civil rights lawsuit against Pearce’s anti-Latino “show me your papers” legislation.

Listening to so much of Trump’s racist language, Santa Ana says, made him and some of the university students who assisted him in the court case physically ill. “People became physically and mentally exhausted listening to this tirade day after day,” he says, “It was like listening to your family and your community being sworn at.”

An expert in critical discourse analysis, Santa Ana is a professor emeritus at the University of California in Los Angeles, where he’s spent decades analyzing political speech and media representations of Latinos and immigrants. He’s the author of Brown Tide Rising as well as numerous other books and academic articles.

In today’s podcast, Santa Ana talks about why metaphor and narrative are so crucial to help us navigate the world. He also discusses America’s history of anti-immigrant and racist political speech. Santa Ana also has good advice for journalists, elected officials, and anyone else who wants to present a more equitable, inclusive narrative about the border and immigrants. “Provide the voices of the people who aren’t heard,” he says. “The families, the children, and the hard-working adults who want to make the lives of their children better.”

Author

Melissa del Bosque is Co-founder and Executive Director of The Border Chronicle. Melissa has written about the U.S.-Mexico border since 1998 for various media outlets, including ProPublica, The New Yorker, The Guardian, The Texas Observer, and The Intercept.

Her work has been recognized with numerous U.S. and international journalism awards, including a Gabo Award and the Internacional Rey de España de Periodismo award, as the U.S.-Mexico investigations editor for Lighthouse Reports. In 2020, del Bosque received the RFK Human Rights Journalism Award as part of a ProPublica group reporting project “Inside the Border Patrol.” In 2016, she received the Hillman Prize for her investigative feature “Death on Sevenmile Road” about the militarization of the U.S.-Mexico border. In 2015, del Bosque’s four-part series with The Guardian on migrant deaths in South Texas won an Emmy and a National Magazine Award. 

Del Bosque is also the author of Bloodlines: The True Story of a Drug Cartel, the FBI and the Battle for a Horse-Racing Dynasty. She has a Master’s in Journalism from the University of Texas at Austin, a Master’s in Public Health from the Texas A&M School of Rural Public Health, and a Bachelor’s in poetry and Creative Writing from San Francisco State University.

In her spare time, Melissa loves to travel, spend time with her family, and explore the Sonoran Desert.